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Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision

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Originally Posted by BMSOTM View Post
The issue with using qualification rank to assess team strength is that strength of schedule and luck with alliance partners can bias results. Just last weekend, 1257 seeded 52nd of 60 teams at MAR CMP. We averaged of five low goals in a match, and maximum of seven, but had bad luck in quals with alliance partners losing comms and such. 225 (who told me their scouting does not consider qualification rank) and 341 picked us for what we could do, and we won the event.
This is exactly my problem with all of the pre-scouting ranks, especially if you use OPR. None of them assess individual robot ability relative to the other teams in the division. Since OPR is based on the performance relative to the individual event, you seeded #1 at a week event then you will have a high OPR if you seeded #13 at MSC yours will be lower. Which of those teams has a better robot? Were events primarily won by low goal bots or was it a high goal shoot out?

My strong recommendation to all the teams looking at the division is to WATCH MATCHES. Make your own determination as to the scoring capacity of each team, and do your ranks that way.

I would prefer to see the list of "best high goal shooters", "best low goal shooters", "best autonomous modes" teams with most consistent hangers, etc.


I know much of these public lists are just time killers waiting on Wednesday, so it doesn't matter much. I would just be hesitant to use any of this for pre-match strategy if you expect good results.
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