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My team was able to shoot pretty hard by the end of the season. We originally had two mini cims, each geared 1:1.67, running 4" grey Andy Mark Stealth Wheels. It compressed it to 7.5" roughly. After our first event, we took the gearboxes off so it was 1:1. We switched the gray wheels to black ones, gripper, then doubled them up. This created more contact surface. Between the torque of the mini cims and surface area/ compression, we could launch some boulders with force. I just wish we would have had more time to experiment with wheels.