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Re: What does FRC sustainability mean to you?

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Originally Posted by GeeTwo View Post
Well, damm. Please 'splain to me in small words how bag and tag kills teams.
People have been doing this the whole time, but you don't really consider their arguments valid or correct, so why bother?

The biggest impact is on teams barely going to two events - they have a robot in the bag they know can be fixed but their chance to fix problems is artificially limited by a garbage bag that a third of FRC has a stronger emotional attachment to than the actual goals of the program. This was my old team, 2791, for many years. Small changes we could make, big changes we could not. We went to the CT regional in 2011 knowing we were terrible, that we had almost no chance of making the elimination rounds, and with really no opportunity to make improvements to the robot. The team almost died that year. Obviously there's more to the story than "the robot was in a bag" but these things were related.

Several people are posting arguments to the effect of "well, some teams will still be bad, therefore it won't completely solve the problem, therefore we shouldn't do it". What a bunch of hogwash. If even a few struggling teams do better this way and can play at a more sustainable and competitive level, isn't it worth it? This will make some FRC teams more sustainable, it's just a matter of if we're willing to do it, or if the people that don't feel like trying after 6 weeks without the self control to stop themselves will make the entire league worse for the sake of an outdated tradition.
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