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Originally Posted by dirtbikerxz
I have to disagree. While I have been in situations before (very few regarding my team) where I wish that I was taken more seriously, 90+ percent of the time what I say matters. Its like BKAHL said. You have to MAKE your voice heard by earning respect and proving yourself. By saying that the only way to get students voices emphasized is by creating a group where there are only students, is like (in a extreme way) saying that the only way to end world hunger, is to kill everyone in the world (again, I know this example is much more extreme, just the first thing that came to mind).
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I agree that example is extreme - and I don't know how it would even apply. By having a group of students giving out their opinion and making it its own entity, we can attract attention to it, therefore increasing the seriousness of students views. In your example you simply get rid of the problem - the point here is (like I said before)
not to get rid of mentors or their ideas/opinions - simply to attract some attention to student views. Also we never said "the only way to get students voices emphasized is by creating a group where there are only students." We are simply offering
one solution. Use it or not, it's your call. Either way this doesn't belong here and should probably go on one of the threads about the founding of F4 since it has a lot to do with the principles of its foundation - not connect.
Also, I'm happy to hear that what you say matters 90% of the time. This isn't the case in some scenarios (many of the founders of F4 Connect agreed). Even if we could help one person I would consider F4 Connect a success in my head.