[Siri]

Originally Posted by The Swaggy P

But none of the aforementioned females pointed out that more women should be involved in male-dominated jobs such as: Oil drilling, Mining, Sheetrock Layers, or any "Down & Dirty" Jobs that possess similar pay.

I find this to be unfair to the male population, for if you are pushing for equal rights, in order to get females into office-based jobs like the ones mentioned above, you should also be pushing for more in the physical labor.

First of all, welcome to ChiefDelphi. You'll notice as you look around that the overwhelming subject of career recruitment here is STEM fields. This is because we are a robotics forum, not because some of us are women. If you're interested in recruitment of women into other fields, I suggest you follow up with places like National Association for Women in Construction, several for women in mining, Women in Petroleum, Women in Manufacturing, Automotive jobs, as I mentioned in a previous post.

There is no grand monolith of "women" in society that limit the priorities of our gender. Rather, there are just millions of women that have individual priorities and passions. The same is true of all people, and I would not expect a male engineer on this forum to be pushing male students toward any career they are not personally interested in avocating. If you would like to work with that Women in Construction organization, please send me a donation letter next tax refund season.

That said, while I am on this forum as an engineer, you have lucked into locating a woman who is indeed passionate about some very difficult and dangerous manual labor jobs. In fact I was injured training for just such a job and am still striving to recover and rejoin. So with that, I invite you to read my previous monologue. While its existence is not critical here, I'm afraid you must have missed based on your claim that no women have discussed this issue.

Originally Posted by Siri

As for whether people complain that men dominate many grueling jobs on the list, I need to control my temper. Do women push for male-dominanted jobs that aren't very socially valued? Not so much [see separate links to women's professional organizations in labor-heavy fields], but that's a recursive definition and also applies to low-paid women's jobs, most notably tipped food service (72%). But don't conflate low social value and grueling. Have women fought for access to other grueling male-dominated jobs? Of course. Countless women have being fighting for literally generations to be able serve and potentially die for their country in many military and law enforcement jobs, and for the recognition of women who already did before they were technically allowed. I hope you are not in this position, but I know I could wake up tomorrow to find out that any number of women in uniform I care about are dead for their country on the other side of the world, doing jobs they or their foremothers had to fight just to access, in an organization where they are still far more likely to be discriminated against, harassed, and assaulted. Regardless of what you think of women in combat, to say there's no push to grueling jobs is blatantly ignoring a very, very long and hard history of women pushing just to be able to compete against the same standards of the profession as men.