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Quote:
Originally posted by monsieurcoffee
When I saw this topic header, I thought to myself, AHHHHHHHHH!

I have perhaps seen less than 10 websites in years and years of using the internet that implement frames well.

Otherwise, you can construct a great website out of just XML and CSS.

Even simpler and better looking than using frames to get a header is just to make a php header and include it in each page... lack of frames is great. How many commercial websites have you seen that uses them?

Ebay? no
Amazon? no
Apple? no
Slashdot? no
Yahoo? no
Netscape? no
Mozilla? no
Gaim? no
Trillian? no
VBulletin? no
w3c.org? NO
etc etc etc etc etc etc

Those are just some examples.
Like on my site, http://silent-poet.vze.com, I don't use frames, I use includes (a.k.a.: headers). In asp, just do this:
PHP Code:
<!--#INCLUDE FILE = "enter_file_here.asp"--> 
where enter_file_here.asp is your file to include.

With the list of sites not using frames monsieurcoffee posted, here's a few more:

FIRST Offical Website
Chief Delphi
GameDev.Net
Game Tutorials
Jasc Inc.
AFL (it's an intranet site, but I've seen it before)

this list could go on for ever and ever, but I hope it doesn't
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