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Originally Posted by MooreteP

I don't like this either.

However, my love for FIRST trumps my misgivings.

Lawyers.

Go figure.

I spent 20 years off and on for FIRST.
One does not donate over $100k to directly or indirectly to something like this if they do not care.

However if FIRST has my finance data the controls around it are required and those include reasonable disclosure.

This issue is not the background check, that is at best a red herring (oh the safety....yeah sure), the issue is I see no evidence...at all...FIRST is set up to collect or store a credit report that may include account numbers, my SSN and sufficient information to commit identity theft even if the ID protection is through a credit rating company like Equifax.

Originally Posted by IndySam

I understand your concern but I passed my verification and didn't get a credit report hit so they didn't check that (unless they have a way to do it without a credit protection company detecting it.)

In fact it can be done. Two of my previous companies were able to hit my credit report without either ID protection service noticing. I know because I audited both systems.

Even a straight block of credit report requests is not exactly what you would think for Equifax or Experian.

In the end, my concern is not that FIRST has my data...it is that FIRST tells us how they use it and provides security and disclosure as is standard practice. If FIRST were a financial institution this would already have been immediately required.

Originally Posted by AdamHeard

Wow you really can't fault FIRST for being unable to detect serial killers... Some are totally normal, some are publicly crazy, some have delusions of grandeur, etc...

I can fault anyone if they use the 'past a background check' as a cover for not being otherwise vigilant. Now being vigilant is not perfect either, but it is better then hoping those people you pay with disclaimers all over the place get it right. Cause actual teachers have managed to get all the way through the teacher hiring process repleat with checks and still do things they should not.

Given the length of my involvement in FIRST I can see how volunteers keep coming back. So I also see no disclosure of how they escalate if whoever gets this information has questions. For example, you are a 3 year mentor and FIRST pulled 2 clean reports then pulls that next one and sees a concern for over a year ago. Now what? You already had a volunteer and who knows what went on.

Originally Posted by Billfred

Another thing the credit report aspect will pull: past addresses reported to credit bureaus. Going deep in every jurisdiction is less practical (for now), but it only makes sense to go deep on known past addresses.

Until last week, my credit report indicated I had an apartment in the Woolworth Building in NYC. The cost of such an apartment would be really huge. Yes I worked at one point in the Woolworth building but I never, ever, used it as a living address. Someone got cute and decided I lived there.

I have lived in the same home for 35 years. They have 2 different addresses and never listen that it is the exact same single family home. The number changed because it was impossible to find the house by the original number, for that matter any house on the road had the same issue. All fun till you need an ambulance and they can not find you.

So no, that feature is pretty useless for this as well.