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Originally Posted by tickspe15

461 still hasn't won an event.
They've been an event finalist 6 times including one division finals appearance. They also have won 5 engineering inspiration awards and two chairmans in their 17 seasons. Hopefully their finals curse ends soon, preferably with 1747

For a number of years (2006-2009) they would always make Finals only to lose out on the banner. Based on the stories I've heard over the years 2004 should have been an Einstein appearance in that their failure to advance was due to bad luck, not bad performance per se.

Originally Posted by carpedav000

I think it's shocking how 1741 hasn't won any regionals/districs... They have been regional finalists three times that I know of (BMR 2006, BMR 2013, Chesapeake 2014), they scarcely miss eliminations (if ever), and they have made division elims. three times (SF 2012, SF 2013, QF 2015).

I'd say 1741 is also up there, at least in the Midwest (and for sure in Indiana). IMHO thier best shot was 2013, but that was also a good year for two other teams, 868 and 234, which kept them from the win at both of their regional appearances. That's what's nice about districts; it gives more opportunities for teams to win events (less of a "shadow" effect).

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace

+1 on this.

I'll add that Steve Florence is among the greatest of FIRST's unsung heroes. That he does not (yet) have a WFFA is even more incredible than the team's hard luck breaking through for a Winner's blue banner.

This is very true. Me saying this is a bit biased as I know Flo (and work with him at a lot of Indiana events) though.