[Chris is me]

Originally Posted by jeser#1772

The problem in applying this option to all teams in my point of view:

1-First choice credits are not money
as I understand the items on first choice came from donations, and the risk involving the game pieces market is 100% on Andy Mark (they need to supply the market but they hold the risk of not selling part of it) so FIRST dont need to deal with it.with save costs and time

These items are already available on FIRST Choice - if FIRST loses money by offering this option they are already losing the money.

2- shipping costs
how can FIRST deal with shipping? since this will not fit into the box (depending of the game) and will be so much work if they need to charge differently for each team or kick off (it looks simple but if i know that all the boxes will have the same weigth probably is easier since we are talking about +2000 teams)

FIRST is already in the business of shipping 3,000 kits of parts, which all weigh substantially more than the game piece, and are usually substantially bigger than the game piece. They even have different weights and boxes per team already, with the kitbot opt-in or opt-out. This would be the same amount of effort as that - an extra game piece opt-in or opt-out with extra boxes for some.

3- sorting
sorting orders is not included in what FIRST does as a organization. and andy mark for example cannot sell game pieces before kick off

This is indeed exactly what FIRST does every year. There are several possible configurations of the kit of parts - rookie tote, veteran tote, KoP drivetrain - all of which involve taking parts from dozens of suppliers and packing them together. One of those parts is even the game piece. This is literally adding one item to that list. This is something they do.

3-time is money
anything that increase the amount of time or work in a operation will cost money, in my point of view First is trying to keep it working without increase the registration fee, it didint increased since i started in 2006

The KoP drivetrain opt-out increases the amount of time and work on FIRST's part and didn't cost teams money. The entire FIRST Choice system increased the amount of time and work on FIRST's (and AndyMark's) part and didn't cost teams money. This is an argument vague and broad enough that it could be applied to almost any suggestion of change at all, but it isn't true in all cases.

So, in my point of view what they are doing is working a solution that help the teams that have huge problems with "working case by case" (since is a qty of teams that dont demand a huge change in the way they work)
But yes is possible to give access to all teams, but it will cost money, and the only way i see it now is incresing the registration fee, and who wants it?

This can be handled the same way it is for International teams - it can cost teams FIRST Choice credits. This is part of the value teams are purchasing when they register and get a kit of parts.

I am not confident that this change absolutely will result in increased registration fees at all - that implies, among other things, that FIRST is just barely breaking even on FRC, that FIRST Choice credits aren't part of the KoP cost (I understand most FIRST Choice parts are donated), that the increased cost is substantial, that teams who don't opt for this feature would have to subsidize the teams that do, and a bunch of other assumptions that may or may not be true. If it costs FIRST more to the point of which they have to ask for more money, a huge assumption, they can simply charge the teams who ask for more game pieces!