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Re: STEAM Actually comming to FRC, and im not happy

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Originally Posted by Cole Cyr View Post
I realize that there have been post on this subject but now there is actual evidence of it happening
Oh, this was serious... I thought this was gonna turn into a gif thread cuz that'd be art.


Ok, fine...

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how do we incorporate such a subjective field into the FRC enviroment?
I know folks like to say "oh engineering and science has RIGHT answers" and all that. You'd like to think you could look at two solutions and objectively say which one is better. I hate to break it to you but that's not real. Heck, that's not even real in the microcosm that is FRC.

All fields are subjective. Yes traditional art has a little more wiggle room but it's not like we don't have teams who have demonstrated that their robot cannot in fact handle a game piece and then claim they shoot 14 high goals a match with 100% accuracy.

But, you want a real example? I'm a judge, I see team A that is really well controlled, great robot. Then I see team B that is, maybe not as effective on the field but is using new sensors. Who gets the Innovation in Control award? I know who I would give it to but I also know there were folks who would disagree. And that's an engineering award. I've had team attribute award discussions that I was pretty sure were going to end in furniture being thrown. [1]

Look, you can be unhappy all you want but this isn't even a shift in direction. If you REALLY think STEM/FIRST is all subjective decisions you're wrong.[2] Finally admitting that teams need the Arts (writing, public speaking, graphic design) to succeed is going to do wonders to transform the culture and build more successful, sustainable teams.


[1] There's a reason I refer to deliberation as chair throwing time, this is why. Rarely does furniture ACTUALLY get thrown. Jess hasn't even thrown a clipboard at anyone to my knowledge.

[2] And before the regular slurry of messages about how I'm being too harsh, consider that I initially instead wanted to use the words delusional or ignorant.
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