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Re: Fuel Vs. Gears

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Originally Posted by Zebra_Fact_Man View Post
FIRST has used automated scoring multiple times in the past and I don't ever remember them giving up on it at some point during the season (correct me if I'm wrong). It will not be a disaster.
Games where automated scoring of game pieces shot into a goal was a problem at one point or another, that I know of: 2006, 2010, 2013, 2016 (but to a fairly small extent last year)

Games where automated scoring was abandoned by the end of the season: 2006, 2013

It's an extremely valid concern. In 2013, the automated goal scoring was abandoned for pure manual count. In 2006, the light sensors were a mess and humans manually counted scored balls later on (if I remember correctly). Both of these games are notable for having a large number of game pieces shot into a goal.

2010 had a specific problem where two game pieces passing through the ball return at the same time would be counted as one, and then DOGMA penalties would stack infinitely as a ball was never returned. Similar problems at the goal too. I don't know how this was fixed or if it was just avoided.

2016's problems were fairly limited, but occasionally autonomous balls would not be scored until teleop, or very rarely two balls would be scored as one. But it was better than previous years.

There is absolutely reason to be cautious as FIRST has no history of automatically scoring dozens of game pieces accurately throughout the season. I'm hopeful that they can do it, but it's a valid concern.
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