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Re: I wish some questions were never asked

Interesting post good for teams at this point thinking about designs....

I'm sure a ref/inspector reads this day 1 definition in the rules as a starting point , which is clear to me at least:

“For the purposes of FIRSTŪ STEAMWORKS, LAUNCHING is defined
as shooting in the air, kicking or rolling across the floor with an active
mechanism, or throwing in a forceful way.”


G24. Don’t throw GEARS at all. A ROBOT may not LAUNCH a GEAR.
Violation YELLOW CARD

A: As long as the FUEL (or GEAR) remains within the ROBOT'S volume, it does not violate G23 or G28. GAME PIECES are not part of the ROBOT, and thus do not count in regards to measuring the ROBOT Volume.

For FUEL they will stay with the definition and subsequent answer from Q&A which to me means the transfer mechanism better be designed not to allow Fuel outside max volume ever (launch) or risk a foul. OK to shoot in Launchpad with a separate mechanism.

IMO I think MARS James is correct within a vertical volume of your robot frame perimeter GEARS (or max volume with FUEL) is likely ok, any air beyond that at all probably not. This would pretty much eliminate the active floor drop too for both game pieces. At that point might as well push it on LOL and save time designing a launching mechanism for < 11 inches or forceful air outside your max volume that an inspector can sense. A small kicker sure probably ok or internal fuel transfer within the robot is ok...

If they get picky to your excellent point for FUEL it may trigger a foul if they 'see air" launching forcefully like a wood chipper etc. transfer above 24" in your example and/or landing on the floor ...I think inside bot rolling/stacking with no air would be OK inside bot since the definition is talking about the floor. Another point for discussion clarity is game pieces do not count in Robot max volume.

The other aspect to take this way down the rabbit hole.... is any active mechanism they launches fuel inadvertent or not outside your Launchpad would be a likely immediate foul too. You have < 3 50 ball hoppers "in" your launchpad.
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