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Re: Best Stopper Knots for Team Supplied Knots

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Originally Posted by JPBlacksmiths View Post
I agree that they are all relatively easy to tie, however I think the alpine butterfly is one one the harder ones mentioned. I don't agree with the inspection point you made because bowlines are extreamly easy to inspect. They all make a uniform shape and it is always clear whether or not it is tied correctly.


My concern with the inspection of the bowline comes down to this subtlety. Even people born with ropes in their hands can miss this difference if they don't check closely. In a perfect world, it wouldn't really be an issue, but competitions are not perfect worlds.

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Also, you said that the figure eight is reliable for end loops, so wouldn't that make it better for this situation? How would someone utilize the sideways loop created by the alpine loop at a point other than the bottom of the rope?
If you only consider which knot is stronger and more convenient to use as an end-loop, then yes, the figure eight loop is better. But the Alpine Butterfly has a smaller profile and I think would lie flat on a winch barrel better than the figure eight loop. As for the perpendicular nature of the loop coming off of an Alpine Butterfly, I honestly don't know if it's an issue or not. That's something to be decided in prototyping, I guess.
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