
30-01-2017, 16:09
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John Rangel
 FRC #0842 (Falcon Robotics)
Team Role: Mentor
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Rookie Year: 2009
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 747
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Re: What would happen if the #1 alliance captain gets denied by every team
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Originally Posted by 346CADmen
So Scorched Earth proposal/possibility exists, and its history is documented.
I had a concept that might be in a similar vein, and know of no rules to cover it.
I’m calling it Universe Upside-down. In this alliance picking strategy a super alliance can be made and in the balance of the competition field is destroyed (ok that’s a bit strong, but...).
I’ll explain the scenario using team ranking as names/numbers. After elims, teams 1-8 are captains. Team 1 picks team 2 who says yes. Now teams 3-9 are the other 7 captains. For simplicity of explanation the balance of picks are sequential by rank. So team 3(2 seed captain) picks team 10, 4 takes 11 and so on. Up and down selections take place per norm meaning 2 seed takes team23 (alliance is then 3, 10, 23) Then the 1 seed invites team 3. (Pause for effect) Realize Team 3 is the 2 seed captain and they have not said no (refused an invite) to a selection so by rule are eligible to be picked. (Think not please find/state the RULE) Think of the fallout. Team 3 says yes, SEED 1 alliance now teams 1, 2, 3 but that is the simple issue. Seed 2 has to have a captain move into the position vacated by team 3, per rule this is team 4 with team 10 becoming the seed 8 captain except 10 was part of the 2 seed alliance which just gained a new captain (as did most alliances). Chaos the depth of this is crazy, question, is it preventable? Would never happen you might say, because never, would the top 3 seeded teams wish to play together.
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I looked in the rules and also could not find anything preventing this. However, I'm 99% sure this will be patched up as soon as FIRST notices. Typically once a captain selects a team, they are no longer eligible to be picked. It seems like this wording is missing for this year and last year as well. That or eligible means not already part of an alliance OR hasn't already declined.
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