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Unread 22-09-2003, 14:55
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I think I get what you're trying to say, and if I'm right, then I think it's a good idea--it was just a little confusing from your post what exactly this thread is about (especially with the poll). To summarize what I think you mean, here's a short little post I was gonna make in the next few days but it looks like you beat me to it.


Staying Civilized:
As most of you probably know, rumors (some confirmed, others just floating) have been circulating about a new language next year. Obviously, this is going to make the next few months quite crazy for us programmers, and there's a few things that will make the transition easier:

a) Whatever language we get is the language we have to use (unless InnovationFirst provides options). Instead of bogging down in how much better/worse the new one is than PBASIC, let's jut take it in stride and deal with it. That way, more energy can be concentrated on learning the actual control system, etc.

b) Whatever it is, it will be equally new to all of us. Rookies and vets will be on the same plane, so don't be afraid to ask questions. Yes, we all may be PBASIC demi-gods, but that doesn't matter anymore (unless it stays PBASIC). Along those same lines, be nice to the rookies--they very well may know just as much as you do.

c) I'm going to try to update RoboEmu for this year, but I can't make any promises. Especially since I don't belong to a team anymore and therefore won't have access to a control system.

d) As of right now, C, Java, and PBASIC are just rumors. For all we know, it could be freaking LISP. Thus, go ahead and learn C or Java or whatever else you want--they're good languages to know--but don't expect it to necessarily be helpful for FIRST. And when the language does come out, don't whine about how much time you "wasted" learning a different language other than what FIRST uses.

Just my 2c. Feel free to PM/email/IM if you want to debate, etc.

-Rob
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