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Re: Ball or Bar

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Originally Posted by Mike Norton
If you look at it. Auto mode is very important. Get the 2X Ball drag the goal under the balls and then wait for the 45 sec to release the balls. Balls will fall into the goal nobody can touch the balls already in the goals.

About hanging. This was fun to watch a couple of years ago when we had to hang. I would say only 30% of the people could hang the rest tried but couldn't.

This year, it is a lot higher and harder to get to. I am betting a lot of robots are going to be flipped over. Once again when we had the puck only 25% could get up onto it fast enough to be able to keep other off.

Look at when we had to get a big ball and put it onto the goal that was on the ramp. Only a few teams that could do this fast enough to be good. I would say only about 50% of those teams could do this and only 10% could do it fast.

SO after all that I would say the best robot will in the auto mode take the 2X ball push the goal to were when the balls drop the balls will fall into it. Once they get control, to be able to get up onto the top platform and control it. Then cap the goal at the end and hang.

I can see that it will come to a lot of hitting on top of the platform. Make your robot to be hit and hit often up there.
Putting the goal underneath the balls is a very good idea, but remember, they are like kickballs, and are very bouncy, so not all of them will make it in.

I see hanging as two challenges within itself. First you actually have to get onto the platform successfully which would require a modified drive system and possibly some size limitations to get past the stationary goal, and then you have to hang from the 10ft bar, which is an even greater challenge.

Hanger bots won't be as effective as ball bots because a hanger bot will need time to maneuver onto the ramp, it will have to fight other bots, and then intiate the hanging process. That'll take perhaps 30-40 seconds, that could be better spent herding balls to the human player and placing 2x balls on the goals.

If you had a 2x ball bot, I would suggest to avoid the ramp area completely and focus on a good auto mode, an excellent 2x ball arm, and perhaps some device that could double as a bulldozer or ball corral blocker.

Has anyone ever considered pushing your opponent's small balls out of the playing field?
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