Hi .... i haven't actually tried Mental ray yet but i read some discussion...it seems that it is quite comlex...(sureley nothing i can't figure out eventuallY

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ne ways there are some free VERY high quality shaders at
www.cgtalk.com go to the 3dsmax forum and they are in there as a sticky... hopefully that will help some one out
can't wait 2 try out mray myself....