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hmm alot more secure these days with hostmasking on connect

only people that can see your real hosts are admins/ircops (and its becomming harder and harder to crack oper lines) that is if the server is setup correctly with encryption and better control over what hosts are allowed to oper...

theres only a few ways to really get a users ip

ive never done this but i assume u can by using a packet sniffer and telling/getting them to send you a file via dcc which should spit out what ip they are on, that is unless the ircd acts as a go between, but i dont know for 100%

the real enemy is common normal users, so if u think of it that way, if theres good admins, and a good server setup u are perty safe, but still watch who u mess with if u dont want to get ping attacked by a 12yr old who doesnt linux, and gets offened when u say its better then windows.... (true story...)

lol!