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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
this is the section of the rulebook that is going to be the problem for these two teams, and I dont see anything grey about it:
5.2.5 Design and Build Rules
<R09> Teams must fabricate and/or assemble all custom parts and assembled mechanisms on the robot by the
2004 team after the start of the Kick-off. Mechanisms from previous year’s robots may not be used,
however, individual off-the-shelf components from previous year’s robots may be re-used to save the cost
of re-purchase of these parts IF they meet ALL of the 2004 Additional Parts and Materials Rules.
I hope these two teams work out some sort of agreement with FIRST, so they can compete - but I also home FIRST makes it clear that collaboration on this level is not in the spirit of FIRST.
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Ken, will you exlpain to me how this is going to be an issue... I am in need of a little clafirication.
And I would like to say the following. Please don't hold any of it against, me I'm not trying to be rude.
As a member of Team 60, I am used to the constant whiplash of the design of our robot. If we are not knocked down at least once a year for our design, it is a very rare occurrence. I do not hold any grudges, because I also realize that some of our alumni have acted in an undignified and very ungracious manner.
Teams had every right to be upset.
Now, however, we have done a lot to improve both our reputation and the spirit of FIRST. We are mentoring two teams in Arizona, eight LEGO league teams, we help out whenever we are asked. Gladly.
This alliance is the next step. Our CAD drawings for this year's robot, any past robot, strategies (from game strategy to marketing strategy to team organization) have been available fully and completely to those that ask.
We did NOT create this alliance to push down any other team. The parts were student machined. All labor was donated. When we were designing, we were desingning together. When we were building, we did as much, if not more than other teams.
And it IS a real life solution to the problem. If an engineering company has to team up with another company to produce a product, they both put in man hours and they both put in the effort. I've seen it happen in REAL LIFE. At Laron, no less.
As I said before, do not think less of me. This is my third year on this team, and I have been educated this year, far more than the last two combined.
PS Dima, darling, we love you, but I don't think this will end without much of a fight.