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Unread 12-03-2002, 18:45
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Re: Team 60 and Gracious Proffesionalism

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Originally posted by gottaluvtheweez
In your response to the opinion that Team 60 is the pinnacle of gracious professionalism, I have a very different picture to paint of Team 60 and their so called gracious professionalism.

The FIRST organization is about learning by doing, its about gaining knowledge through experience. Its not sitting back and watching, its standing up and participating. When approaching Team 60's bench at the Chatsworth Regional they spoke of how great their robot was (it is great, no doubt) and how the students designed it and built it from scratch, and how their only problem was getting the coefficent of frequency to work to their advantage in respects to their wheels......

Did you catch that?

Coefficent of frequency? Now, I'm not a physics expert(I failed the physics AP test), but frequency doesn't have coefficenets...They meant friction.....I gave them a moment to see if they caught their error.......they didnt. This got me to think....then a young girl on the team looked at me smiling and said...."I buffered it.........and i made it all shiny" To my knowledge we don't gain inspiration of science and technology by wiping down pieces of metal.

Upon further investigation...the Team 60 tangle only gets worse. If you visited their website pre-chatsworth, you would have read that students were only allowed to watch Glenn and George from Laron Engineering work on the robot in 2 hour shifts on the weekdays and 3 hour shifts on the weekends......

Weren't they supposed to build their own robot? Huh?? Am I the only person to realize that team 60's robot is nothing but a corporate creation rather than a student one?


I have nothing against Team 60...the team members are all quite nice....but please........if this is to continue other teams will join the mess and this will be the battle of the conglomerates rather than the battle of minds, hearts, technology.

Some dude who looks at things.
Howard right?

I apologize that perhaps I was not the best first impression for team 60. I believe the defense of my team was taken care of but as for myself being the girl who "buffered" the arms, I'd like to respond.

I was under the impression that after a fellow team mate went into great detail about the mechanics of our robot you understood and accepted the way our team, as many teams, functions(much like the way I believe FIRST intended teams to run as explained in other postings ) I wish for you to understand, however, I don't believe there's much more anyone can say. As I had mentioned right after meeting you I am a student who before this club knew absolutly nothing about engineerig and had never taken a physics class in my life. So to take a few poorly spoken phrases from somone who informed you of this, add a bit of a twist and call our team ungracious or unprofessional isn't exactly fair, nor is it accurate.

I guess I just want to remind you (it is Howard isn't it?) that there's more to building a robot then just the straight out mechanics. I do not know of any buissness or corporation that functions with an entire work crew of people who all have talents in one specific area. Machine shops are not just run by machinist, nor is a laboratory run simply by scientist. Although I did not put as many hours in building I did do my share of "standing up and participating," in things like fundrasing and public presentations.

Maybe this is your first year, or maybe it isn't, but I hope that you will eventually realize what FIRST is about; and it is about inspiring students, and it is about science, and it is also about learning and that, if nothing else, is what members of team 60 are doing.

p.s. I really don't recall saying "buffered"

Last edited by amanda : 12-03-2002 at 18:48.
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