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As a small aside:

I think we are making a tragic mistake in believing that science and technology is the ultimate in humanity and that gracious professionalism grows naturally out of engineering. Ken, maybe you are right; engineers find solutions. But to which problems? Keep in mind that nuclear weapons, bombs of all sorts, highpowered weaponry that injures and kills in the warfield and in our homes were all built by engineers that found solutions.

I reiterate: please, judge every person by their own worth, their own actions. A title describes some aspects of you, but it does not define you. Hopefully we will all define ourselves positively through this discussion.