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Re: 469 Entanglement / Bad Refereeing on Galileo

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief

Clearly many bots have been tipped and damaged this year - if no team was disqualified for these actions at any regional, then you might as well delete those rules from the manual

its not a rule unless its inforced - or maybe they should take the 'weasle words' like 'intentional' out and state that any action that CAUSES damage or tipping will result in disqualification?

no matter how well you build your bot, if someone else builds their stronger and keeps ramming you, ramming you, ramming you - sooner or later something is going to break - its only a matter of degree.
You're going to disqualify a team everytime their opponent gets tipped over? Great - I'll start mounting my motors and battery at the top instead of at the bottom.

You're going to disqualify a team everytime their opponent's robot get's damaged? Great - I'll start making my chassis out of glass and balsa wood.

Let's distinguish between "ramming" and "pushing". If a robot backs up and continually slams into their opponent with firm structure that's ramming. If I've got more traction than you do and I move you down the field that's pushing. If I've got bumpers to absorb the energy I would argue that that's not ramming either.

If this was so blatent, why weren't there any wedgebot tanks in the finals? Because to win the game you had to herd, double and hang. Team 67 made it to the finals because they could do all 3, not because they were flipping robots.

<R10> Teams are expected to design and build robots to withstand vigorous interaction with other robots. See The Game section of the manual.

This is the engineering principle of "robust" - we could have added all kinds of cool mechanisms to our robot if we didn't have to worry about tipping or getting broken. That's part of the requirements, in fact when we start brainstorming every year we list "simple" and "robust" above everything else in selection of our configuration.
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