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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
I think the only way this type of situation is going to be resolved is for FIRST to bite the bullet
acknowledge that FIRST HAS become a battlebots event to some extend
and to create reasonable rules to deal with it and make it fair
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its not going away - it needs to be dealt with headon.
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Yes! Someone who can see past the bitterness to the real intent of the post. I think that what I am talking about is a systemic problem with FIRST, and that it needs to be dealt with as opposed to pretending that everything is ok as bullies duke it out for the championship.
I have also noticed that my reputation has suddenly gotten quite a bit worse. Here are some of the reactions that I think are legitimate and should be seen:
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Originally Posted by Andy Baker
I disagree with your opinion about calling out 753 in Portland. They played aggressive, but did not intentionally tip anyone. It would have been called. Also, another head ref would've wimped out on the 6 minute timeout for 753, so don't complain.
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Thank you Andy, for enforcing the rules. It is legitimate to disagree with me on the intentions of 753, and I think the PNW regional was in general well-called. But I think it is very interesting that you admit that most other head referees would not have stuck to the 6 minute limit. Why not? Is it because the rules are largely ignored when it is convinient? This is another example of the exact problem I'm trying to point out!
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Originally Posted by Stu Bloom
Aaaah ... GP at its finest. Thank You, I was a referee on Galileo and I believe we GOT IT RIGHT. Your post was DEFINITELY bitter and biased, and inappropriate. I WILL respond publicly, without flame.
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I respectfully DISAGREE. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the two referees with whom I conferred about the penalty (assigned to the far side of the field from our players station) were wrong, and there was no penalty. But they said there was a penalty, and they said it was assessed. And yes, I am biased (I want my team to win; do you not want the same?) and I am bitter (having lost three years in a row to people who, in my opinion, were intentionally streching and/or breaking the rules).
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Originally Posted by JVN
Referee calls are final.
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Whoa, high-repuation people have taken notice of this post. And they have promptly ignored the problem. I agree, they are final. I am not asking that the taped be reviewed and the results of the match changed. I am asking for an overhaul of the system that encourages rules to be ignored when it is not convienient to enforce them. Another shout out to Andy who had the balls to stick to 6 minutes for both our alliance and the opposing alliance when we took the timeout.
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Originally Posted by Clark Gilbert
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What no comment? Just unabashed reputation degradation? :-)