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Unread 19-04-2004, 18:12
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Re: I Got Something To Say And It Ain't Pretty

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Originally Posted by SilenceNoMore
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The kit of parts was absolutely a mess and when replacement and extra parts were ordered they took weeks to get their destinations. Overnight means two weeks in their book. I have come to the conclusion that FIRST is propping up companies that would otherwise fail in their free market. Parts in the kit were substandard, especially the drill motors.

In the real world, people see past bs and brown-nosers. In the real world, people who are incompetent are fired.
I would like to know what real world you live in. To be honest, the problems with a few parts and shipments and deliveries and everything else is the real world I live in.

We have parts recalled from suppliers for a quality problem. We sometimes campaign an entire fleet to fix a problem part or error that was made. We often go to a supplier because they are the only supplier and we have no other options - and we deal with them as best we can. The reason cars get recelled is because something wasn't right and it needs to be fixed. The world ain't perfect.


I am not sure who you are refering to as 'incompetent'. I surely hope not the hundreds of volunteers that make FIRST happen. Without them, probably half the teams could not afford to be involved.

The price to participate today is steep - no one will argue with that - but just imagine if everyone putting together the kit and designing the game and referring the matches and so on were being paid. Thousands of donated hours make this thing what it is. Volunters are human, probably doing something that is outside of their normal worklife and sometimes mistakes happen. But I think if you look at the number of teams and number of kits and number of individual parts - the error rate is pretty small.

And, most bs'er and brown nosers do not get fired - if anythng they get promoted.

You probably expected some negative back from your post - you're getting it here. I would suggest you volunteer to help at FIRST or at an event. Most Regionals needed people to help. I think a few days on the other side will change your views on the entire program.
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