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Unread 20-04-2004, 00:50
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Re: I Got Something To Say And It Ain't Pretty

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Originally Posted by SilenceNoMore
The scoring and annoucing systems were also appalling. Not only did FIRST get our team sponsors and partners wrong (despite the fact we updated the TIMS info MONTHS before kick off) they only announced them during the first matches and they didn't even bother to put them up on the board before a match. What happened to last year's system? Why did it look like they threw it together in Flash the morning of the practice rounds?
As a scoring operator at one event, a scoring trainer at two other events this year, as well as many events in previous years, I can say a few things about the scoring system comments...

-Regarding the TIMS info...the easiest way to see if your information was indeed updated in TIMS is to see what FIRST's web site lists your team as in the event registration list. That same information is passed to TacOps(the scoring software) for use in the printed reports, etc. The most common thing I have found that throws teams off when updating their TIMS info is that there are both "long name" and "short name" fields...in many cases, a team will update one but not the other.

-Regarding the look of the system...as it has been previously mentioned, yes, it is Flash...however, "thrown together the morning of practice rounds" doesn't do justice to the amount of work put into the system every year. The "thrown together" system you mention is simultanously retrieving the current match team numbers from the TacOps system, retrieving the real time scoring information from a separate Flash entry system on two iPaq handhelds, communicating with the PLC field controller to start & stop the match, as well as changing field state from autonomous to remote control. Personally, if it came down to having a "pretty" system or one that worked, I'd vote for the one that worked...
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