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Re: pic: 230 pt. celebration

I was thinking a lot about how to beat 45 + 33 vs us + another team before nationals. I came to the conclusion that playing defense to stop them from herding wouldn't work very well. It might slow them down a little but if 494 is over there harassing 45 + 33, the two of them together can still herd faster than 60/254 alone on their side of the field.

I thought about blocking the ball chutes with mobile goals, but it's a risky strategy. At the beginning of the match the 60/254 + 494 alliance blocks both corralls with the 2 mobile goals. Then they spend the rest of the match preventing 45 and 33 from latching onto the goals to move them out of the way so they can dump. Then with 20 seconds left 254/60 runs to hang. I didn't have a lot of confindence in this strategy though.

I thought about capping 45's stationary goal at the beginning then keeping their mobile goal away from their human players, but I was pretty sure 45's arm could pull the ball out.

The strategy that I determined was the best was to try to control all the 2x balls for the entire match. In the beginning of the match 254 starts on the same side as 45 and we run our 1 ball and turn autonomous, triggering only our ball drop and placing ourselves between 45 and the mobile goal at the end of autonomous. Once autonomous is over, we grab the 2x ball and run to our side of the field, where we drop it on the ground. Then we run over and grab the 2x ball off the other mobile goal and hold on to it. Then we poke the 2x ball in the center of the field towards our side of the field.

From there, I am pretty confident we could prevent 45 from picking a 2x ball off the ground. Those balls get knocked around very easily and as soon as we see 45 going for a 2x ball we just play keep-away with them by repeatedly running into whatever 2x ball they are going for. Once all the 2x balls are on our side, we either herd unguarded while 45 and 33 herd with 494 harassing, or 45 spends the whole match going for a 2x ball while we defend and 33 herds with 494 playing defense on them. Either way the 45+33 alliance would end up with more small balls, but I doubt they could get more than twice as many as 254+494. At the end of the match 254 caps their goal and holds on until the last second. 33 tries to hang but is defended by 494.

A bonus is if our partner can block 33 from tripping their balls in autonomous, since I'm confident we could stop 45 from tripping.

End result:
No robots hanging
254/60 + 494: 7 balls + cap = 70 points
45 + 33: 13 balls = 65 points

It would definately not be an easy match, but that's the strategy I would have tried had we needed to play 45 + 33.
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