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Unread 24-03-2002, 13:13
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Originally posted by GregT
In the 639 pit we too were suprised to be put out 2 rounds in a row, but we checked it with the refs and they ok'ed it, the announcer even said that only the winning team has to rotate their robots.

I think one reason you may have been unsuccessful was the attitude you took towards the judges. When a judge says no thats it- NO, you don't continue yelling and argueing (I don't know if you relized it, but you were).
For me, this is a confusing issue. While I understand the need for a referee's ruling to be final, in this instance, it's absolutely clear that they were disregarding published rules regarding the game. Further, by pointing me toward a team update that corroborated *my* argument shows that they were ill prepared and unaware of the rules. To that effect, while I may have been a bit emphatic (my team had a long, long day), I don't think I was wrong to pursue the issue.

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It was confusing for us too, we were told by our alliance captain to go on, we checked with the refs to make sure it was ok, we went out. You guys played a great game- that first match was really close.
Again, it's nothing personal against your alliance, and we did play an awesome set of matches.

This was less about the outcome of the match and more about getting a consistent ruling that matches the rules. If it's an official rule change, make it official, and adopt it at every regional. If it's not, the referees need to be better informed of the rules. This year, moreso than I can remember in past years, many of the rulings FIRST has made about the legality of certain strategies, parts, rules, etc. has been totally disregarded at the competitions. It's as if the onsite crews are using a totally different rulebook than what I received in January. . . at least, in some instances.
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