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Unread 27-03-2002, 11:02
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I just watched the match straight through and then again with stop action. The final score is clearly discernable from the video.

Before I state my score count, I want to say that I absolutely agree that the referees judgement is final and as soon as everyone leaves the field; that is the score that stands. It is also a stated rule that video replays will not be considered, so there should be no thoughts of trying to get an outcome changed.

That said, it seems that the referees did indeed mis-score the match -- no doubt a human error.

The score for the Blue Alliance was correct -- 38 -- At the end of the match they had two robots in the endzone (20), an empty goal in their goal zone (10) and a goal with eight balls in their ball zone (8). There is a clear view at the 0:50 mark showing these eight balls. (I am assuming no human player balls were added after that point)

Now the Red Alliance score -- this clearly should have been 41 -- I can't even figure out what mistake the refs made. At the end of the match there clearly were two robots in the endzone (20), there clearly was a goal with balls in the scoring zone (10 for the goal). At the 0:34 second mark and again at the 0:13 mark it is clear that there are 10 yellow and 1 orange balls in that goal (11). So, 20+10+11 = 41. I don't know where they got 32 from.

Hope that at least helps your count. But remember -- the refs are human too, and are volunteers, not professionals -- and considering what they have to do over a two day period, they really do make very few mistakes.

My advice to anyone that ends up in this type of situation: at the MOMENT that the incorrect score is posted on the screen, if you are truly confident of that you are correct: immediately have the team captain (and only the team captain) approach the nearest ref and in a courteous manner state your concern.

Although its possible they will stand by their ruling at that point, it is really the only chance that you have which is consistant with the rules of the competition. They might just re-check their score cards and agree with you. My attitude is that if they say they can't do anything about it, grin and bear it -- arguing at that point doesn't really do anyone any good.

Just my two cents.

Aidan