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Re: A Question on Sportsmanship

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A Question on Sportsmanship
Lets look at what happen.

1st round Buzz and there teammate play us team 61 and 1100. we were stopping buzz from getting balls and the 2x while 1100 was getting points for us. 2/3 the way in 1100 went after Buzz team mate they hit them once and they went over in doing so 1100 move away from them and fell over. we went up and hung that was the game. We would of won that match but the Ref. called it intent to tip over a robot. The robot that was tipped over had there arm up in the air and was very unstable as it was. this team was going to go for the 2x ball. 1100 had all the right to stop them from doing this. So we were DQ and Buzz got that win. then we sat there for 5 minutes then the head ref came over and said Buzz is taking a 3 min. time out. so we waitted then the Ref ask if the other teammate take buzzes place. We said no. then 10 min later they ask if buzz now can be placed on the field because they were somewhat fixed. once again we said no. So the Chief Ref gets on the PA and tells everybody it is our fault that we will not let buzz put there robot on the field.

Match finally started 2 vs 1 we win. We think the right has been wrong. lets play the 3 match and find out who will win. Within 3 seconds of getting control of our robot there teammate robot flipped over because they were going for the 2x ball on the goal and our robot push the goal into there robot causing it to flip over. We score enough point to win. But we waitted for the Ref to go and get the rule book and look in it for something this took another 5 minutes before they told us to get our robots. finally they posted the score. and we won that round.

But it is not over. The Head ref that was doing this was the Head Ref at UTC.

To we go into the finals. First match we won but by doing so we broke one pulley so we had to fix it. No problem we will put in our other two robots. one robot went on the field the other one getting ready to be put on the field and we heard you have 4 min. to let your robot cool down. so this team 1100 did not put there robot out yet. next thing we know the head ref tells me you can not put that robot on the field becuase your 3 min. are up. So I told him we will take a time out. he tells us sorry you can't do that now. After he told everybody about how we said no. he did not go over to the other team and ask them if we could go on. becuase once again there was no problem with our teammates robot it was just the lack of info that kept the robot from being put on the floor.

Question on Sportsmanship would fall on the Head ref. he gave the buzz over 10 mins and then delayed the game more. Then made a big seen telling everybody what we were doing. And before that he let a robot on the floor when it was not ready during the seeding rounds. we waited again over 6 mins because they said the field was bad then once the other robot came out and put on the field the field once again started to work right. We did not say anything because it was the right thing to do.

But to have a Ref make a big impact on the results is just wrong. I know they changed the rules a little the day of and not telling us before hand. The rule change was they put all the 10 point balls on the floor after the 45 sec are up. and that you can hang off the side of the pole. Both of these rules changes helped out the ball handers and the robots that could hang from the side of the pole which was one. because the other robot that hung from the side of the bar did it legally.

So the rule changes and the way thing were done it put one team at a better advantage then others that showed up. If they only did the ball change that would have been great. but to change a rule so your robot does better is just not right.

Sorry to go on as long but the injust was put on team 61 which should not have had. our drivers did well and our robot did very well and to try to take that away was not right. there were parents and adults telling our students how bad they were. and how unfair this was and we shouldn't have won.

Our teammates played well and we played well. We just ask to be treated fair.

sorry about any mis spelled words I was in a hurry.
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