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Originally Posted by Andy A.
And here we are. No WMD, no moral victory, no strategic victory, nothing even remotely involved in fighting terrorism, an angry Arab world and an over tasked military. We do have examples of the US military practicing the same brutality that Saddam was guilty of and a mounting body count, along with a massive war debt. Aside from all that, the real problem is that we have pretty well trampled on decades of diplomatic ties and good will that could have given us a real chance at routing terrorist cells around the world. Now the chances of getting the level of cooperation that we had shortly after 9/11 is gone. This makes the ‘war on terror’ a war on entire countries instead of terrorists.
-Andy A.
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(I'm going to follow Andy off the subject here, but some things need to be said before too many people embrace these words as true. This pains me.)
Are you sure about this?
WMD: Iraqis fired scud missles at our troops (while we were bombing them). We hear that our troops have found some Iraqi equipment to make mustard gas. Also, recently, we have heard that we have found serin-filled bombs. Is this not true?
Moral victory: Saddam is removed from power. Is Iraq no better off now as opposed to before? One side of the media says no, the other says yes. We hear that schools are in session, the power grid and oil production are both more productive now compared with levels under Saddam's power. It's too early to tell if there is a moral victory or not, yet. I hope that there is, for the sake of peace.
Remote links in Iraq to terrorism: Actually, we have heard about some links. Suspected terrorist training camps are reported to be found (one included a Boeing passenger plane). While these are not concrete, they are at least remote.
"We do have examples of the US military practicing the same brutality that Saddam was guilty": SAME brutality as Saddam? whoa. Both sides of the media tend to agree that Saddam raped, tortured and killed thousands of people. Some reports say that up to 300,000 Iraqi people have been killed by Saddam's brutality. You are equating 6 US soldier's abuse to this? While the abuse of these 6 soldiers (and their management) must be condemned and punished, it is not the SAME. You are over the line on this one.
I repsect people's opinions and it is good to back up your beliefs passionately, but do not use shockingly untrue claims to get your point across. Once this sort of reckless behavior is shown, respect is lost.
Andy B.