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Re: Women and the Draft

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Originally Posted by soezgg
Having clearly established the need for an Army, we now need people to be in it. Most government established armed forces are volunteer, however some are mandatory, and some you have to join just to get a job or daily food (N Korea cough cough). In our Armed Forces, we have millions of volunteer patriots, who fight purely to fulfil a personal need to defend their nation as a symbol of everything they value or love. And some are just here for the college money, training, pay, or out of complete boredom blah blah blah.

Anyway, when not enough people join, and we need millions more to join, the Government says 'hey your living in my $@#$@#$@#$@# country, under my protection, we beat the $@#$@#$@#$@# brits to make you live free, now GO FIGHT!!' (sounds kind of like my dad when I lived under 'his house his rules' right?)

Anyway, that is why we have a draft. And if you dont like it, say 'screw this I'm moving to canada', like i have heard many young idealistic political activist cowards say.
Many countries I have heard of that require service, Israel being a prime example, it is a matter of personal pride to work in the army. Since everyone does it, there is no discrimination against sex, gender, sexual orientation, age, etc. However, in a country that can't call for volunteers without being prejudced against 50% or more of them, I don't think it is an effective stance to say everyone should be proud to go into the army to fight for things they don't believe in. It is a generalization, an idealistic thought that a large majority of the United States population would have quite that much personal pride. If we as a country more heatedly valued our presence for the purpose of "winning battles"/"deterring war", I would agree with you and say that our armed forces are based on everyone's well being. But what about people who don't agree with slaughter, torture and prejudice? What do you say to them when you tell them about the pride to be in the army?

I do however agree with you that hightailing out of the country is a dangerous and not particularly courageous move at this point in time. I would not go so far as to call them cowards. You fight to live and for your family to live, be it in the name of your country or your government or your town or your state. Some people don't share these values, they have their own, which is why the draft will never gain full support, for men women or any combination thereof.

If you have been reading on the actual "draft" thread, you may have seen the discussions as to why the draft will or will not occur, and you can probably notice it leans heavily towards not occurring. Once again I would state that I don't feel this country is quite as glorified as you may think it is, but we are of differing opinions, and I make no move to stop you from acting out for your beliefs. So please, respect others' opinions in the light of this conflict, whether they wish to move to Canada or stand by you in combat.