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Unread 16-07-2004, 08:57
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Re: Yellow card / Red card usage at 2004 IRI

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Originally Posted by Joe Ross
I'm strongly against point penalties for all but the smallest
infractions. Why? It encourages doing illegal things as a strategic
move. If intentional tipping was 25 points, it's a no brainer to tip
237 before they get on the bar. Even if it's 50 points, I'd still
rather have 237 on the ground, then keeping other people off the bar.
What about intentionally ramming 45 as they get ready to put the 2x
ball on a goal full of 15 balls. As long as you ram then 7 times or
less (and keep them from placing the ball) you've come out ahead.

Even if it was 100 points for an intentional tip, it wouldn't be that
hard for 2 good offensive teams to beat the 1 remaining team, where
they might not have been able to if both were there. If it were 200
points, you might as well DQ, the team.
After I went home yesterday, I KNEW there would be a post regarding this. I should have clarified. I'm not saying that the point penalties should completely replace the DQ penalty - just enhance it.

I still think that this year's DQ rules should be in place. Intentional tipping, entanglement, damage, etc should be an automatic and immediate DQ. The point penalties would be reserved for more of the gray area of the rules. Basically, I'm proposing to replace the yellow card with some points. When I mentioned that accumulated penalties should result in a DQ, I was thinking like basketball: someone can be immediately ejected for a flagrant offense (in FIRST: immediate DQ for intentional damage), or they can foul out after so many fouls (in FIRST: DQ after so many penalties or penalty points).

Does anyone really think that point penalties are confusing? It seems we had point penalties this year for a lot of things - breaking the plane, stepping out of bounds, goal tending, etc. I don't think that was too confusing.
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Last edited by Chris Hibner : 16-07-2004 at 09:05.