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Unread 16-07-2004, 12:21
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Re: Yellow card / Red card usage at 2004 IRI

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Originally Posted by Collin Fultz
it's not that it is that hard to see intentional...however...the coordination between all of the refs, field crew, knowing which bot to shut off is difficult. at IRI we had probably the best ref crew and scoring/match running crew available in FIRST AND they were right next to each other. Andy was rarely more than 8 ft from Ken and the rest of the scoring table and they still had problems coordinating which bot to turn off at times. not because it is hard, but because it's a noisy, action-packed two minutes and the refs don't want (and the fans and scorers don't want) to have to scream at each other during the match to constantly disable robots for different amounts of time. let the refs watch the match...then make the call. if it needs immediate attention (few things do but it happens) they can take care of that. but let them do their job without having to get that complicated
As a Scorekeeper, i know personally i have never had a problem hearing what the refs and field crew need to convey to me. And also whenever i have had to disable a robot, there never has been a problem conveying what robot to shut down.
Though the problem i see with this whole suite is not what type of penalty system to employ, but the penalties themselves. As of being 8 events thus far this season (4 being offical events, 3 others using FIRST ref crews) is the refs themselves. They are human and have emotions and thus not one ref crew to the next, have the calls been consistant and 100% the same like it should be. I think before we spend time to come up with a way to call penalties, i think the we should find out how the penalties should be defined and held consistent from the first event to the last event.
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