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Unread 11-08-2004, 12:38
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Re: Purchase/Prebuild - What's the difference?

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Originally Posted by Steve W
Let's be honest. The "transmissions" in the kit are not really that great. They must be modified and adapted to meet the needs of the team. For Pete's sake they are for drills. Not the same as what a real transmission is.
Steve,
On the contrary, I feel those drill transmissions are a relatively elegant little planetary gearbox. They pack a lot of reduction into a small area. They've also held up (in my opinion) pretty well at competition.

How exactly must they be modified and adapted to meet the needs of a team? All I've ever done is slap an output coupling or sprocket on the end of the shaft, and called it a day. Maybe my needs are just not as demanding as some people's...

What exactly is a "real transmission"?
I always thought those drill "transmissions" were real enough.

If the current kit transmission is so inadequate, would you prefer a new solution be implemented? What kind of impact would there be if FIRST put a GaryDill tranny in every kit-of-parts?

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Originally Posted by Steve W
We seem to be going around in circles. I have not yet seen any pro or con against prebuilt except the rules.
What?
I've seen a great deal of great discussion over the past few days.
In this thread, and others. Maybe no one has listed out the Pro/Con in a list, but they've definitely been discussed. Going around in circles isn't necessarilly a bad thing. It's not like we as a community can make any decisions. That's up to FIRST. All we can do is discuss the philisophical implications, and know that someone, somewhere above, is reading this.

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Originally Posted by Steve W
As we know, example the last 2 years that FIRST will change the rule if someone breaks it. All you need is someone to yell loud enough.

I will leave this thread open for a couple more days. If people would like it to stay open longer let me know.
Whoa...
Do you really believe that about FIRST?

I don't personally see anything to yell about.
I'll build my robot during the 6 weeks.
The other 46 weeks of the year fill up just fine with design and testing.

Also... I don't know why this thread would be closed.
I think the discussion has been top notch, and hope it continues. It is interesting to see the opinions of others in this program during the "philisophical debates" that occur.

John

"As we know, FIRST will change the rule if someone breaks it." <-- The most disappointing thing I've read on these boards in a while.
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