[ColleenShaver]

FIRST definitely needs to clarify the under the goal rule..

In VCU, even incidental contact was being called.. but it seemed it was never called until the end of the match (so if you were under at the end and only at the end, irregardless of during the match, you were DQ'd). Teams would be in a pushing match and the goal would slide over their arm.. not lifting or damaging the goal, just slightly contanting.. and if the match ended that way, they were DQ'd.

In Cali, it was the complete opposite. At one point a robot even had a forklift like device down, it delpoyed under the goal and the goal began to ride up on it. It seemed to be a blatent violation of the rules (whether or not it was intentional)... but it was never called.

And teams had tape measures of Kamen Devices and they were allowed to be used... despite previous messages on the Yahoo Forums...

For the sake of all teams, I hope FIRST clarifies these rules and sticks to the rules that have been most commonly enforced over all competitions (if it was allowed at several, and disallowed at only one.. allow it, and vice versa...)...

Also, we were asked specifically to put our controls up at VCU and weren't even allowed to stand behind the player stations in Cali... the way it went in VCU was much nicer and more convienent for all.

That's all I can think of right now... I'm sure more will come up!