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Unread 09-04-2002, 07:18
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Do you really believe in "An eye for an eye"???

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Originally posted by George180
"Gee...some people seem to think that having FORKS on your robot automatically violates the idea of "playing fair"...but as I can see now, all it takes is a bad attitude and bad intentions to do that."

>>i never said anything about forks being unfair... nor did i propose anything unfair be done... i merely stated the probable results of any robot trying to make an offensive play with my robot: i would attempt to make an equally offensive play of my own.

"I'd rather oppose a robot with forks that intends to play by the rules than with someone who threatens to flatten me should I make a mistake. (whats the difference between the person who intentially mangles a robot by using forks, or by *ANY* other means....sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me)"

>>first, i in no way intend to break the rules with my actions. second, i see no difference whatsoever... they should both be disqualified. however neither in my example nor in the original example did anyone "intentionally mangle" another bot.

"Don't give me a "self-defence" claim....your message clearly telegraphs that your thinking is premeditated."

>>defense never comes into the picture... just an offensive reaction to a potential threat.

-- quotes by bigqueue with my comments inserted

one of my grandfather's favorite sayings went something like this: If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. i can make the same analogy when talking about other robots... if a robot seems like it will threaten my robot's safety (such as having a fork lifts), i'll react accordingly to ensure my robot's safety. i don't advocate intentionaly mangling anybody's robot, but i may pay less attention to the damage i do to a fork lifter than any other robot.

George
Your message is confusing to me because right off the bat you say that if someone does something "offensive" to you, you would "attempt to make an equally offensive play of my own".

Then you go on to say "i in no way intend to break the rules with my actions"....but you seem to imply that the initial "offensive" move was not right.....yet your move would be "equally offensive"....I know that doesn't mean equally illegal, but that begins to sound like "Clinton Speak" if you claim that.

Then, in the next sentence you say "second, i see no difference whatsoever... they should both be disqualified. " I understand that you are talking about my example, but I was creating an example that seemed to me to parallel your desires......

You seemed to be saying "An eye for an eye" or "do unto others as they have done unto you". Is this right? sounds like it to me. If this is the case, then I agree with you....you BOTH should be DQ'd.

I apologize for if this isn't what you are saying, but it reads that way to me.

-Quentin
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