tkwtzel: yeah, I noticed that in 90% of the games hanging was the difference between a win and a loss, so I'll probably be adding a long arm to pull up the bar, plenty of space for it anyway...
And I don't think it really deserves a new thread, it's just a cardboard practise bot, I just need minimal feedback, no need for it to crush all in it's path
kpugh: That's some mighty good advice, although the cardboard bot needs no real drivetrain, It couldn't hurt to check some of that stuff out before moving on to the real thing.