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Originally Posted by Natchez
Everyone,
For example, the 2004 rules allow for a bearing manufacturer (or a machine shop) to give a team a truck load of "standard" bearings without making them available to other teams. Because teams can buy the bearings at McMaster or Sears, the team was allowed to use these bearings but the team had to cost the bearings (charge the bearings that they use on their robot against their $3,500 limit) at the same cost as vendors that could supply the bearings to other teams (Sears or McMaster).
To extrapolate to more advanced mechanisms, the 2004 rules would allow for the construction of an AM transmission by a local shop as long as it is available to other teams through another source; in this case, Andy-Mark.
I realize that this is not a popular outcome and I personally hope this will not be the result of the 2005 rules analysis. What is discouraging is that most of us think that having a machine shop build AM transmissions before the season would be a violation of the 2004 rules when in reality, it would be perfectly legal within the letter and spirit of the '04 rules. CONGRATULATIONS to those who MADE THE RIGHT CALL!!!
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I am sorry but you are dead wrong. Maybe you have a problem understanding what OFF THE SHELF means. That is not something that you get when you give plans to someone and have them build it for you. It means you call a company like AndyMark, order an assembly and they ship it from OFF THE SHELF. You can double talk yourself to death but the fact still remains, OFF THE SHELF means that a company has manufactured and placed in stock a number of these items for sale to anyone who asks. That does not mean a company builds to spec and then ships to you.
Your holier than thou attitude has made me really upset.Trying to justify what you either do or want to do. The fact is that the people that made the right call are the majority of people, that read the rules and said that it is wrong. There are those that said that it is OK to cut metal for stock as long as it is not cut to exact sizes for the robot. They are correct because there was no cutting or fabrication for the robot. Remember that self justification does not make one right.
This will be my last post on this subject I promise.