Before this gets any more ugly--
Any chance I can convince you guys to take this elsewhere?
A quick google search revealed to me a large number of political discussion/debate/flamewar forums. Maybe one of those would work.
www.politicalcrossfire.com seems interesting...
Maybe it's time to "take it outside".
John
EDIT:
Or... you can just start an AIM chat called "FIRST Political Debaters of the World Unite" and talk in real-time.
/EDIT