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Originally Posted by ahecht
Here is an interesting scenerio. You place a tetra of your color on a goal, but keep your robot in contact with that tetra. The other alliance stacks their tetras on top of yours, and you lift up your tetra and dump theirs off. Is this descoring?
Well, according to the definition of STACKED, "A TETRA is not considered STACKED if it is touching a ROBOT of the same alliance." Therefore, your tetra isn't stacked. However, the definition also says "A TETRA is STACKED when it is placed on top of a GOAL or on top of another STACKED TETRA." Therefore, because your tetra isn't stacked, your opponant's tetras were never stacked, and therefore removing them is not descoring.
Likewise, if your teams tetra is below an opponant's tetra and your robot brushes past your tetra, you are making your tetra not stacked, which makes your opponant's tetra not stacked, which means you are descoring. Therefore, touching your tetra under an opponants tetra is descoring even if neither tetra ever moves.
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Good questions for Q/A.
I don't think they would allow that first part, because if I wanted to negate all the opponents points, or an ownage of a goal, I'd just have to go touch one of my tetras anywhere in that stack. Seems like a couple of these rules really circle around each other and end up not making sense when you really read into them.
I think that part about a tetra not being considered "stacked" if you're touching it, is in regard to getting the points at end of match for it. So just don't be touching any of your tetras at the end of the match.
Even though it's a rule, I don't like how you can't be touching your own tetra to get points if it's at the bottom of the stack. You're obviously not supporting it, and it will not fall off the goal if you were not touching it. But I guess it's just the rule... similar to last year with the 2x - you couldn't be touching it to consider it capped... but that was more understandable since the 2x balls were able to fall off easily... so if you were touching it in any way, that could be helping it to stay on the goal... Here my tetra may be under 8 other tetras, but it's not going anywhere! Oh well.
I'm sure we'll get clarification from FIRST.