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Re: Its getting to be RIDICULOUS!

I am not going to make this long, because i had just worte the whole thing, then when i pressed submit, i was logged out, ugggg.

Okay, first off. When i wrote this thread, it was in response to the threads posted in the season of 2004. For example the thread, "Is First Moving backwards"

The title itself is attacking FIRST. If you want to make constructive criticism, you politley make your point across and suggest ways in which whatever you thought was wrong could have been done better. You have to respect those that will disagree with you. If someone "Flames" at you, you cannot flame back, what is the point in that? You are never going to please everyone, so please do not hold back your opinions because you are afraid people will not agree. If everyone did that...i don't think Chief Delphi would be this big.

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There is a world of difference between true "constructive criticism" and "coming here to vent." The former makes an observation about an issue in a manner that is intended to educate, enlighten, inform, and lead to a solution. It is designed to respect both the seriousness of the issues, and the dignity of the other party. Done properly, it results in a problem being recognized and acknowledged as an issue worthy of discussion, and hopefully of resolution.
Mr. Lavery ALWAYS says it best. You must respect the 'other party'. If they give a reaction you don't like, just calmly defend your opinion, that is all you can do. And if you are going to post on Chief Delphi please keep an open mind to the fact that you may not always be right. And, before you decide you don't like that something that FIRST does, think about why they did it. How the way they did it benefits FIRST.

Petey,
I know full well that in order for an organization, or a team, to improve upon itself, it needs constructive criticism. If someone outright tells you that what you did was wrong, and they didn't even look into the reason as to why it might be benficial to the team or organization AND they don't even give a suggestion an dhow they think it could have been better, you tend to not want to listen. My family was big part of running Beach Cities Robotics for two years, and we heard a lot of complaining. And we hear a lot of constructive criticism, the second, we tended to listen to with more heart, and with more open minds then the out right complaining.

So here is my Constructive Criticism on Constructive Criticism.

1. Do exactly as Mr. Lavery says.

2. Respect the party that may not agree with you, and keep them in mind.

3. Do not 'flame' back at them when they 'flame' at you.

4. Suggest ways in which you thought the thing that was done poorly could have been done better.

5. Choose an apropriate title. Ex. I could have used a better title on this thread, with less emotion and more...Gracious Proffesionalism than i did.

Which brings me to my next point:

6. When you are trying to make a point, try not to use emotion. The first thing we learned in school is that when writing a persuasive essay, you cannot use emotion to get your point across. You need facts.

7. Keep an open mind to others opinion about your opinion, they might point out things you didn't realize. Always keep an open mind on Chief Delphi.

8. On CD be as proffesional as you can about any post you make. It will come across better to everyone earning you respect.

I had some other ideas, but i forgot them. Just keep in mind, that everything that FIRST does has a reason, and it might not make things easier on you, but FIRST might do things to make things better for the FIRST organization so it can keep on growing, or things might be done to benefit teams that are less fortuant then yourselves.

9. LOOK AT DATES, i started this thread a year ago.

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