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Re: Is allowing a practice robot good for FIRST?

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Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz
Matt,
I think you are missing my point, (as well as some of the other folks here.) You are attacking a practice robot as giving teams an unfair advantage because they allow the team to "learn more". I am applauding the ability for students (and mentors) to learn more. Throughout history, learning has been suppressed, delegated to a select few, or dismissed in the name of some ideal. When one team learns, other teams benefit, through this forum, team interaction, and assistance and mentoring at competitions. If you think we are competitive because we are a "have" team, or build a practice robot, or as suggested above, skirt or bypass the rules and the meaning of GP you are doing a great disservice to the engineers who mentor, the students who work on the robot, pit, or other activity, and the teachers who keep us focused on a learning tool that exceeds many programs in schools today. We don't measure our success by the number of wins we achieve, but by the number of students who find themselves, decide to attend an educational institution beyond high school and become productive citizens and future mentors, parents, teachers. Weigh this in the balance of your mind...On one side the number of boys who made Eagle Scout while I was a leader (23) + the number of students who passed through Wildstang (during the time I have been a team member) and went on to college (200+) against National Wins (1). Does it seem a little lopsided? In that 200+, two perfect ACT scores, numerous above 30 scores, MIT, Purdue, Bradley, U of I students, countless engineering graduates and I am proud of every one of them. Now I know a practice robot didn't make those statistics but if one practice robot got one student to go to school and graduate it was worth every penny, every hour of time, every drop of sweat, every tear.
If you want to know how to build a more competitive robot, ask. GP demands we tell you, help you, guide you, teach you.

I completely agree with Al.

But I don't really understand why this is such a big deal. Honestly, take a step back and think "How Important is it?" Is it really going to matter that much that some teams have an advantage over others? If FIRST is a program that brings students to real life problems, then this is a classic example. Some people will have the resources, and some wont. However, I still firmly believe that the resources are there, if you can find a way to attain them.

I guess that's what I mean to say.

How Important is it? Is it important enough for you to go out and find the resources so that you can create a second robot? If you want to have the advantage, just like everyone else, it's out there, you just have to try and attain it. And for the rookies, who will find it very hard, there is a great forum here that you can find veteran teams to help you with money, parts, CADs, etc.

It's all out there.
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