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Originally Posted by Tom McCurdy
www.quantumninja.com/firstpictures
When I asked about where I could get some robot pictures I was told www.firstrobotics.net When I went there I was impressed with the massive amount of pictures available, but thought the design could be improved slightly. I spent much of the last couple days dowloading one by one all 1419 pictures on the site. I put them onto a new site that I made for displaying and archiving the pictures. The site allows you view pictures in groups (versus having to load all the pictures in a section) and will be updated constantly. It also looks a little nicer than the firstrobotics site. I will also shortly be adding zip folders of the entire picture collection, and by individual year. The site also allows users to upload pictures, versus having to email the pictures to the guy.
If you have any suggestions please let me know.
I think you will enjoy the new site.
www.quantumninja.com/firstpictures
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Wow. The site is very impressive, and it is obvious that you put a lot of work into it. It is very nice, and your efforts show.
However, having said that, there is a real problem. You openly admit that these are not your photographs. You have pilfered them from another site, and are using them without permission and without giving credit to the original photohgrapher/owner. At the very least - and there isn't really a nice way to say this - this is blatant plagarism. You are not crediting the owner/photographer of the image, and leaving the impression this is your own work. All you do is note which team's robot is in the image, but not the person that created the image. In the worst case, it may be a totally illegal copyright infringment and a criminal offense (the fact that an image is not displaying the (c) copyright symbol does not mean that it is not copyrighted; the only way to know for sure is to ask the original photographer/owner). In either case, it is improper. The fact that you put in a lot of work and additional material does not change the fact that the photographs are not yours are you are using them without permission.
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Firstrobotics wasn't the rightful owner of all of those images... and I don't believe anyone went through the process to get an offical copyright on their images... If any teams want their pictures of their robots removed I will. In short I don't believe I did any sort of copyright infringement.
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Whether FirstRobotics used the images with or without permission is immaterial. YOU do not have permission to use the photographs. Whether the photographer registered the image for a copyright certification is also immaterial. Unless you have direct permission from the owner of the image, or explicit knowledge that they have placed the image in the public domain, then including the images in your public database is improper.
And to top it all off, your home page is particularly inappropriate for an activity like FIRST. Is that the sort of public image that you want to have associated with your team? Perhaps more important, do they want that to be the impression that the public has of them?
-dave