[Jonathan M.]

Yeah, but punk was also influenced by American bands such AS: The Velvet Underground, which spawned from the Fugs. New York Dolls were probably one of the very first punk bands. They came about around the same time as The Ramones, and well we all know that The Romones by todays standards are 'pop-punk'. But who cares about standards, punk isn't really about rules or labels.

As for the Sex Pistols, you can't call them sell outs because they're knd of like N'Sync, created to be the next big thing. And they were. I still like their music, cause it sounded awesome, but yes, they were fake. (So in other words this whole thing I'm saying is.... Punk really came from the US.. not so much the UK).. That's all debatable though.

Old school Bands that rock that you should listen to if you want to become educated in Punk:
Minor Threat,
The Varukers,
Rudimentary Peni,
Social D,
DK

Influencial Pop-Punk bands that rock, (Not like Simple Plan/ Good Charlotte):
The Descendents,
The Ramones,
The Buzzcocks
Other bands that start with THE

Thank You,
-Me