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Originally Posted by Paul Copioli
A fact:
You do not have to shoot the gaps to block the center goal (or any goal, for that matter) in autonomous.
A question:
What is faster: Finding a vision tetra, picking it up, finding the goal, moving to the goal, capping; or driving straight about 17' and placing an arm above the goal?
-Paul
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Great point! And think about the alliance with one really good vision-tetra-capping-capable robot and two boxes on wheels, going up against the alliance with one really good uber-long-goal-blocking-arm robot and two boxes on wheels. I can just imagine the intra-team debates that will be happening:
RedTeam1: We can cap the vision tetra on the center goal, so let's set our robot to go there while you two block them and keep them out of our way.
RedTeam2: Yeah, but Blue knows that you can do that, so they are going to set their BigBlueArm to block the center goal. You need to go to the left side goal.
RedTeam3: But Blue knows that we know they have the BigBlueArm. And they are probably figuring that we are figuring that they will go to the center goal, and are going left instead. I bet they are already setting the BigBlueArm to go left. So we need to go to the right side middle goal.
RedTeam1: But we know that they know that we know they have the BigBlueArm. And we know that they know that we know they can block the middle goal, and will probably go to the side goals. But they don't know that we know that they know that we know that they can block the middle goal, and will probably go to the side goals. But since we do, we should go to the middle goal.
RedTeam3: But they do know that! We partnered with BigBlueArm three matches ago against you, and noticed then that when you know that they know that you know that they know you are going to the center goal, you always go the left goal instead, and we told them that. So this match they are going to expect you to go to the middle goal. But they know that you know they expect you to go to the middle goal, and will go to the left goal instead.
RedTeam2: But hopefully they don't know that you know that they know that you know they expect you to go to the middle goal, and will go to the left goal instead. So you should go to the right goal.
RedTeam2: But don't you think that they are smart enough to know that you guys were one their alliance before, and know what they know? They must know that we know that they know that you know that they know that you know they expect you to go to the middle goal, and will be planning go to the left goal instead. So they know that we will probably go to the right goal. So we need to go to the center goal.
RedTeam1: Ah, but I think that you are about to fall victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia." But only slightly less well known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line." And my late Sicilian Uncle Vizzini always taught me that if you know the other guy is smart enough to know that your partner was once their partner, they must know that you know some of what they know. And since we know they must know that we know that they know that you know that they know that you know they expect you to go to the middle goal, and will be planning go to the left goal, but are planning to go to the center goal since they know that we would normally go to the right goal, we have to do something completely different. So we have to figure out what we know that they don't know...
Meanwhile, on the Blue side of the field:
BlueTeam1: Do you think that we should say something to them?
BlueTeam2: I dunno. Probably.
BlueTeam3: Yeah, we should. I mean, the match was over two minutes ago. We scored 67 points while they sat there plotting and planning. Of course, we would have scored a lot more if BigBlueArm hadn't fallen over during autonomous because it was running all over trying to block all three goals against red robots that weren't even there...
BlueTeam2: So I wonder what they are still talking about?