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Originally Posted by Stonefan5271138
Also, it goes against Gracious Professionalism and is also a dirty move. Just don't do it if you're in question because not doing it and not getting penalized is better than doing it, getting known for playing dirty, and getting penalized.
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Since when is defense Dirty, Ungracious, and/or Unprofessional. When 2 teams play a football game, defense is exactly half the game (not including special teams). This game is no different. If my team's bot is better at defending than your team is at scoring, you should score no points. Likewise, if your bot is defending my team well enough that we don't score, you've accomplished your task, and have helped your alliance gain an upper hand. This is in no way
dirty and it certainly (in my book) doesn't go against gracious professionalism.
Think of it this way. in 2003, your team, and your alliance partner are on the ramp. Now your opponents have just gotten done making a stack of 5 and have a ton of bins racking up points. Now, do you do the gracious and professional thing, and not try to prevent them from getting on top of the ramp, EVEN if that was what their bot was designed to do in the first place?
The same thing in 2004, the winning alliance at one time had one of their partners attached to the bar, but was rolling around on the top surface to prevent other teams from grabbing the bar. Another great example of good (and encouraged) defense. I apologize if my ideals are not aligned with those of FIRST robotics, but I really do believe that Dean Kamen would have made another Co-Opertition game if he really wanted to.
With that said, It is only illegal to steal a tetra if you purposely grab ahold of it and pull/push them over. I can imagine many circumstances where a team may have grabbed an opposing tetra before capping, and due to a bad move on the capper's part, the capping robot falls over. I sincerely hope that judges will be diligent enough not to throw a flag on the blocker's tactic. Else, you may see an influx of teams flipping over (almost if it was on purpose) seemingly to frame the blocking robot. I am not saying that any of these strategies have been, or even will be adopted by my team because that certainly isn't the case. All I am trying to do is stand up for the defenders, because they got the same rule book you did, but chose to play the game differently (but well within the rules).
*gets off his soap box*