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Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie
There are also cases I have seen in which this has not happened. I have a very good friend who is very involved in the hip-hop scene (By the way, he is appalled by popular rap). He runs a show on our school radio station called the hip-hop spot. He is a phenomonal poet a great freestyler. He does not dress to fit in with the crowd, he does not talk like the rest of the crowd, he does not act like the rest of the crowd. So, I would submit, The croud is not dressing, talking, acting they way they do because of the Hip-hop culture, It's something else. Something thats not hip hop I.E. popular rap.
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I agree that music can affect a person to a certain degree, but it really bothers me when people say all rap is poison and crap when 1. they have only really heard mainstream rap and/or 2. they do it while saying their type of music is the best as if they are listening to the most moral music ever made.
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Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie
When that dialect includes words that are vulgar and wholly unacceptable it is neccesary to conform. I witnessed a fight between two girls and a guy that are in this "culture" just yesterday which included a large amount of very unacceptable vulgarities. Will that be accepted in the business world, absolutely not, is it fair, definitely.
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That can be assumed for all dialects. These two people were fighting... It's only natural some awful words would be heard from them. I highly doubt if these two girls made it the business world they would fight in the vicinity of their office. Also, people need to remember that 2 girls do not represent the majority. Besides, people who are not a part of hip-hop cultures can be very vulgar as well. Have you ever watched the Osbornes? Of course, they don't represent the majority anyway, right?
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Originally posted by Scottie2Hottie
I think you are very, very misinformed. a hate crime is defined as: "a criminal offense committed against a person, property, or society which is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender's bias against an individual's or a group's race, religion, ethnic/national origin, gender, age, disability, or sexual orientation." The "motivated ... In part" leaves a large "gray area", basically leaving it to the discression of the judge. I think the police officer comment was completely out of line. The majority of Police Officers are out there to protect everyone. Very few Police Officers harm others when it is not completely neccesary. But thats me ranting.
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This is really a whole different topic that I would love to get into at another time. I was simply reffering to events such as those with Amadou Diallo shot 41 times, and unarmed... if you haven't heard that name before, I really think YOU are misinformed. I wasn't saying that police officers are racist nor am I saying those officers represent the entire police force. They WERE strongly influenced by stereotypes. They were scared I guess, because they've heard some negative stereotypes, and they acted on fear instead of logic. This is why I get SO offended when I hear people saying that hip-hop (or ANY culture)causes people to be negative people. Hip-hop culture no more causes people to kill than does Rammstein encourage school shootings. These types of generalizations are what cause people to be afraid of other people and cause accidents like these to happen. Sorry if I made too light of a sad situation, but my desire was simply to get people to not think so poorly of rap.
As for the N-word... thats another completely different subject that should be taken to the Open Thoughts board if anything (if its ok with the board owner)... I already have a bad feeling what was supposed to be an intelligent debate will turn bad sooner than later and be locked or deleted...
Thats all for now