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Re: Religion in Education

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Originally Posted by KenWittlief
maybe if you told us what the question actually was, we might better understand your concerns.
The question is just simply, do you think that religion should be brought into education (given the examples I gave).

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The US constitution says congress shall pass no laws regarding the establishment of religion

it does not say we shall have separation of church and state

and it does not say we shall have freedom from religion, as if religion were something to be shunned or avoided.

but some people would have us think that is the case.
Nowhere in the constitution does it contain anything relating to "seperation between church and state", correct. I've had this told to me over and over again...the seperation came with the establish and free exercise clauses.

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The religious beliefs of the people in our nation and our world have a great deal to do with our history and culture. If you get upset everytime God or church or the bible is mentioned in school, maybe you need to figure out why its upsetting you?
I don't get upset everytime this happens...I get upset when there's only one side of the story.

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If you have been led to believe that all references to religion or God are forbidden within the walls of public schools, you have been given incorrect information. If that is the way you thought it was suppose to be, then I would understand you being upset - thinking the teachers are breaking the rules

but from what you have told us so far, they are not breaking any rules.

Maybe you could be more specific if we are not seeing the whole picture.
Actually, I've been led to believe the opposite, but in my own view of education, religion should not be brought into discussion when it's not actually necessary because it is always a one-sided way of thinking, without any thought of other religions.

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BTW, when you said you didnt read the book, were you referring to C&P or the Bible?
I was referring to C&P, the only way I did read it is by SparkNotes, and I didn't even read most of those. I've read a little bit of the bible, the rest I've learned through Christians.

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Originally Posted by evulish
Like Wetzel said, the Bible is the best-selling book. Most people have heard of or know the story of Adam & Eve. You don't need to believe the religion to understand what the book said. How is it any different than asking "Who is the most famous Shakespearean couple?"
Yes, the Christian Bible is the best-selling book. I don't think you need to believe the religion either, but to ask who was the first couple on Earth is a bit unfair in a way, because not every religion believes that A&E were. Demonology says that Adam & Lilith (sp?) were, until Lilith betrayed Adam (and more to it...).

Anyone can argue the most famous Shakespearean couple also...it all depends on what you want to believe.

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Originally Posted by evulish
Maybe you can ask your teacher to add books to the curriculum if you want some literature about different religions (I think that religions should be taught not preached in schools) (these are all for different grades and reading levels)
The Fountainhead (Atheism)
Night by Elie Wiesel (Judaism)
Nectar in a Sieve (Hinduism)
Ali and Nino (Islamic)
If I had any hope of that being possible, I would. But for two reasons it wouldn't work:

1) It's AP English...and she only follows that cirriculum, and nothing else.
2) The school board has to approve the material (to the best of my knowledge), and the rest of the English department. And since everyone is Christian on the board, they wouldn't allow Atheism or Islamic books to be brought in (nothing against Christians, just the school board since they are like that). Also, I know for the Islamic book, it'll just get destroyed (my high school is very racist).
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