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Unread 28-03-2005, 01:02
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Re: [moderated]: A call for an end to inconsistency (sticking up for G25)

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Originally Posted by robo hottie71
Were those the right calls? Maybe, maybe not. Are we lucky that no one got seriously hurt? Probably. Should FIRST have realized that much scoring would take place at the wall with robots that have the ability to extend well above the top of the wall? ABSOLUTELY. Whether we have been playing for 4 weeks or not shouldn't matter at all - there needs to be a remidy made for next week or surely the Championship with some sort of ceiling.
Stu is exactly right- there is no rule. I suppose you could call this a gray area, created by FIRST? Another G25-esque rule that is left in the hands of the referees to make a judgment call?

I find it particularly irritating that people are comparing regional to regional when there is obviously no consistency at the regionals. FIRST is not infallible. Nobody is. Why should we assume that they are? Mistakes are always made, no matter whom is making them, and this needs to be realized in every single thread being made about this subject.

Has there never been a gray area created by FIRST? Has a referee never had to make a judgment call on a rule that does not completely cover an incident that might happen? It happens every year. Many people seem to single out regionals for their inconsistency, but I fail to see why this has any relevance. The referee crews were not the same. People are not the same. Every call that a referee makes is a judgment call, on whether or not they think a violation has happened. It happens. Life goes on.

In my first year of FIRST, I didn't understand gracious professionalism. At the last event of that year, a call was made on my team that cost us the win. In a fit, I stormed out of the event and sat on the bus, refusing to recognize those who won. Someone said to me, "The only thing that is making us look like losers is your inappropriate behavior". I'd like to think that gave me a lot better perspective on FIRST.

If the CD community is looking for ways to spend their energy after regionals, thank you threads are a good way to start. Posting on CD, yelling at competitions, and publicly stating that you are unsatisfied with gameplay, referee calls, and events has very little purpose. There is no obligation from FIRST to read what is written on these forums and make a clarification.

For being inspired students and mentors, we sure don't act that way a lot of the time. We're fallible. We get passionate, we act out, we don't think. We run across the field screaming/cursing at the referees and we expect FIRST to have a plentiful supply the next year. Many of the people who are giving knee-jerk reactions here on CD need to have their reflexes checked.

I don't agree with things that happen at events, but I'm also not one to cuss referees, sit in the stands, or complain for too long. It happens. Another FIRST kickoff comes around, we are excited again, gray areas are created.

Life goes on. FIRST goes on. And regardless of the bad calls, unclarified rules, 'bad' kit parts, gray areas, aggressive play, inappropriate behavior, inconsistent referees, and medals-that-should-rightfully-go-to-another-team comments, I come back every year. I hope everyone else posting here does, too.
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