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Unread 30-03-2005, 21:18
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Re: [moderated]: A Challenge: YOU Rewrite G25

Dave, based upon your message, I'll be sure to stay away from BA!!! I hope that's not their current procedure.

Overall, the rules are very well written, and I clearly understand that rewriting rules can have unintended consequences, but due to the number of posts about this specific rule, I'd suggest it be clarified in some way.

Using a term like "normal game play" is too vague, as it leaves too much open to interpretation. Also, the whole "intent" thing is way to hard to actually enforce. I would like the rule to be more specific, like the 30 pt penalty for hitting someone in the loading zone.

Examples of what would be clearer (similar to the post by Swampdude) would be rules like the following....

30 point penalties:
- Ramming from greater than 3 feet
- Tipping another robot from contact higher than 3 feet, or by a flipping mechanism
- Actuating a gripping mechanism solely to grab or damage any part of another robot

There should probably be a couple more, but hopefully I gotten the idea across. One thing that might need to be in the robot construction rules is something like "within 3 inches of the floor, robot side skirts should not have an angle less than 45 degrees"... to eliminate the robot design where the robot itself is made for tipping others.

As far as entanglement from 2 robots colliding, if a robot is designed with cables/tubing/etc exposed, then it's a risk they take, not the issue of someone who happens to get entangled with them.

It wouldn't be the first time I was wrong today, but I think this would make things much clearer, and make everyone more comfortable (including the ref's, who have a very difficult job).